1982 GPz-750 (KZ750R1)

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Re: 1982 GPz-750 (KZ750R1)

Post by jhwalker » Mon Nov 17, 2014 5:47 pm

SonicVenum wrote:
jhwalker wrote:
SonicVenum wrote:
jhwalker wrote::clap: :clap: :clap:

Where is the picture of the Juanster sitting on the bike?
Maybe I'll have Rach take one for me down the road. She's at work, so I didn't have anyone to snap a pic of me as I rode around our condo community to see how it went.
We want to see that front wheel pointing to the sky! :-D
I'll see if I can get the jack to go that high. :lol:
:shock: :)

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Re: 1982 GPz-750 (KZ750R1)

Post by SonicVenum » Wed Nov 26, 2014 9:48 am

FUN, FUN, FUN...

So, now that I've gotten the bike running, I decided to register it so I can get it out on the road. The bike hasn't been registered since 2003, so I figure I should be good to go since it should be out of their system for a long time now. Uh... no. The nice young lady at the local DMV informed me that for some mysterious reason, the bike had NOT dropped out of the system, and I was on the hook for a devilish $666 for the maximum they charge, three years of back registration with penalties. Thank God I got this bike for "free," but what a joke to have to pay that much to register it. Luckily, I was able to sweet-talk the girl into dropping one of those three years, leaving me with $464 to pay to get the bike legal. Just before Christmas was not a good time for that surprise.

After all that, I go to start the bike, and it doesn't want to start. I pull out my trusty ignition spark tester and see that I'm getting intermittent spark to all cylinders. Ugh. I did some research, and I'm hoping it's just a pinched wire by one of the front tank mounts. If not, I'll have to pick up new coils. The Dyna 3-ohm coils seem to be highly recommended for these bikes. Once I get that sorted, if I still have cold start problems, I'm thinking I might have to tear into the carbs again. I was never able to get the pilot jets out of 3 of the carbs, so I cleaned them as best I could, ensuring I got air through the passage by alternating which passages I blocked/put air through, and they seemed to be cleaned out. I'm also wondering if the bike is jetted properly. The stock main jet is 110. The main jets in the bike read 130. From what I've read, this bike with free-flowing exhaust and pod air filters would work well with a Dynojet Stage 3 kit, which calls for a couple modifications that are not present on my bike (drilled out slide lift holes, and air corrector jets). I may invest in one of those kits, along with 4 new stock 37.5 pilot jets. So close.

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Re: 1982 GPz-750 (KZ750R1)

Post by jhwalker » Wed Nov 26, 2014 9:59 am

ouch, but progress. Good job on talking the price down.

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Re: 1982 GPz-750 (KZ750R1)

Post by Brakelate » Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:34 am

Phocking California and their total bullshit registration fees, penalties and collection methods! :x $666 to get that bike on the road is INSANE. Especially when it just sat there for 11 years and never had a record of being on the road. This kills off many good old car and bike deals; Bogus "Death by SMOG", when they run just fine, but are just on the "hit list" due to age, and the same can be said for repurposing old vehicles that were just sitting in private property for years, off the books. When it comes time to "re-animate" them on paper, the deal isn't often worth it, leaving a good old, affordable, entry level vehicle to go to the scrap yard. If they will take it without documentation.

I am fighting them now over a couple of similar totally insane issues. My cherry little Yamaha scooter I bought my daughter - she went to register it, plunked down $200 !! for sales tax current title and registration. They took the cash, then send her a letter back, stating that they do not accept our "AZ Insurance card" as proof of liability insurance, as our broker is out here, and it is on our shared account. They refuse to give her a new title, refund her any of the $200 and the whole thing stalls. It eventually ends up back out here with me, with still less than 250 miles on it since new. Now it sits in my garage, as I cannot do anything with it here without a clean out of state title to start a transfer back into my name in AZ. So it's in DMV Limbo Hell. All while they refuse to refund my money.

Then, we had re-registered our little boat out here when we moved almost two years ago now. I just got a Tax Lien notice because we did not pay CA Luxury Tax on this 18 year old boat because we had long since registered it out here. But, these Pit Bulls refuse to give up, and now it went from an $8 tax to a $77 bill, which they will attach to my tax return or some other nasty avenue of recovering their cash, which has ballooned to ten times the initial fee in penalties, collection fees, etc.
Despite me having proof that it was registered out here !!! I guess it is worth an attempt to work the "phone tree" with the number provided on the notice and see if I can get this straightened out. Surely they can just "run" the AZ numbers and see it is currently registered out of state, when that occurred and all of that. But, what a total pain in the ass. I am sure they are hoping you just pay the $77 just to avoid the bullshit. But, that will be nearly $300 I will lose and never see again for idiotic technicalities. They should be happy anyone goes through the effort to demonstrate insurance, pay the tags and all of that. They snatch your cash with an iron grip with NO REFUNDS possible, but demand all sorts of fees that double and triple over time to the point that even a modern mechanically sound vehicle is stripped off the road due to paperwork snafus and snowballing fees that no one can afford in this day and age. How about "New Owner Forgiveness"? Past owners are never going to pay really high outstanding parking tickets, registration fees and penalties. Why not "start fresh" with a new owner and at least get the vehicle on the road, taxes and revenue coming in, rather than leaving all these poor people and cars to rot, taken out by bogus snowballing fees?

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Re: 1982 GPz-750 (KZ750R1)

Post by SonicVenum » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:05 am

Damn, that really sucks, Jay. The government can be pretty damned unforgiving when it comes to money. When you take a close look at California DMV fees, you see that just about every freaking agency in the land has their fingers in the pie. The DMV gal was telling me that if you live in certain cities, your vehicle registration is higher because not only the county, but also the city takes a cut of your registration fees. That's why the back fees on the GPz were so high. One year of registration is around $80 (which she said would go down over time), and another $120+ in penalties were added from all the various agencies with their hands out. What really got my goat was that she couldn't tell me WHY to damn bike was still in the system. I've had it for more than a year, my co-worker bought it in '06, but never registered it, and it spent a good 3+ years before I got it in a garage in the Inland Empire. NO ONE looked it up. She said someone might have entered a different plate #/VIN, but made an error, and brought up this record, thus keeping it alive in the system. Utter bullshit.

Stick to your guns, brother. You can definitely try the honey over the vinegar, but hopefully persistence will pay off, especially when you have so much evidence on your side.

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Re: 1982 GPz-750 (KZ750R1)

Post by Brakelate » Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:50 am

I have personal experience with one of those "one in a million" vehicles that never "fall off the grid" or get deleted from the DMV system.

I had a VV "Baja" Bug that I got in High School and drove around for a year or so after graduating. I ended up trading it off for a motorcycle, which I sold or gave away with all my other worldy possessions before entering the Army.

I assumed it was re-registered the old car to mind, and I (even to this day) oddly remember it's license plate number. I ran it in the DMV computer and it came back still in the system, under the same plate. OK. But odd thing, it was still in my name!!! The new owner apparently never having done a thing to process it into his name, re-register it, or anything. No new plates assigned, no notes of it being "Salvage Titled" or sold for scrap or anything. Only thing I can imagine is that they stripped it and transferred all the many good parts to a new donor shell with it's own existing title, or it is still out there in a landfill or rotting away on some private property somewhere having never moved since I saw it last.

Typically, old expired non-active accounts "fall off" the system after anywhere from Three to Five years, typically from what I have seen. Untouched, some last as long as Ten years in very rare cases. But, after discovering "my" VW still in the system, it became a oddity, and I would go back every few years when it would occur to me out of the blue to check on it. Sure enough. Last I checked, Likely Five years or so ago now, it was still there. Expired almost 30 years, but still showing me the registered owner, my child hood home address, name and year, VIN and the very same license plate.

Bringing it up, I should try to find a source to punch it in the system one last time, just for kicks to see if it still remains listed. :think:

THANK GOD it was not a boat that qualified it for a "Luxury Tax" immediately attaching itself to any real or personal property assets I might have to claim, such as the boat did (*That, a VERY dirty little secret that no one ever tells you when you purchase or register a vessel in CA!) as I never received any expired registration or penalty notices on it. If they received my "Release of Liability" form that I filled out with the new owners information, it never was attached to the file or made it's way in the automated system. But, it seems to have just "frozen" mysteriously in time.

Sure makes you want to go and find an old frame, with a "clean" VIN and just transfer all the parts to it. Or, just buy a frame for the title, leave the bike as is, and swap plates on the existing complete bike and roll the dice with the rare odds someone might compare the VIN with the Plate at some point. Same reason a lot of folks took advantage of the convenient (and a good tool for the honest, simple guy just trying to get along in life) programs hey once had for "Special Build" VIN's, Plates, etc. But, that was found out when all the various Harley's and High Dollar bikes were discovered to be being used by "Chop Shops" and pros "working the system" to "whitewash" stolen bikes, cars, or whatever. Then things got all muddy and demand spiked for the "lottery" of small exceptions handed out each year following. I am sure Walker knows all about this, having fought through this, as original COBRAs and other exclusive vehicles fought for registration, smog emissions or other limited edition plates exempt from SMOG, safety and other inspection standards. When the state discovered all the Millions of Dollars they were missing out on in "normal" , accurate assessments of "Fair Market Values" on which fees were based, due to the wave of Classic, priceless legitimate cars sneaking through for near nothing a year in fees, combined with all the obvious loop holes and rampant re-badging or recycling of old "clean" VINs on stolen bikes and cars, they basically shut it all down, leaving the "legitimate, good guys" stuck out in the cold. Some snuck out of state registrations, some just gave up, while others just masked the VIN's with old, clean prior "salvaged" titles or bought and registered old hulks of dead cars, or of cars that were scrapped, discarded or were left to rot somewhere without ever filing a "salvage / scrap " title, leaving a clean existing paper trail on a vehicle that no longer existed in any recognizable form.

I still wonder where that old VW is, and what path it took after it left. But, like Walker said, regarding the Termi. Sometimes it is just best to let it go and not hold on to anything other than it's memory.

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Re: 1982 GPz-750 (KZ750R1)

Post by jhwalker » Mon Dec 08, 2014 1:40 pm

Crazy stuff.

Down here, the frequent suggestion for my SPF is that I go to Mexico City and find an old, totally destroyed 2 seat sports car, buy it, and "rebuild my SPF" as that old car. Of course I would have to COMPLETELY rebuild it (wink wink). But I would then have an old Mexican legal 2-seater which looks a lot like my SPF used to look... :whistle:

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Re: 1982 GPz-750 (KZ750R1)

Post by SonicVenum » Mon Feb 04, 2019 4:54 pm

My goodness, I work slow. The bike has sat for a little over 4 years now. Unsurprisingly, the carbs got gummed up again in that time. I did end up putting the new Dyna coils in it, but by the time I did that, starter clutch was slipping a bit, and the carbs were already starting to get clogged again. I took the carbs out again the other day, and the old fuel had done its damage again. I have a set of rebuild kits on order, and will be getting all 4 pilot jets out one way or another. The plan is to get this thing running soon, sell it, and put that money into the C20. I finally have my welding station setup, so I should be able to address the rust on the truck. :dance:

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Re: 1982 GPz-750 (KZ750R1)

Post by jhwalker » Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:38 pm

:lol: dat not slow.... maybe a little :-D

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Re: 1982 GPz-750 (KZ750R1)

Post by SonicVenum » Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:04 pm

After 5.5 years of having this bike, I finally got the pilot jets out. A screw driver and penetrating fluid did nothing but completely strip out the tops of the jets. A screw extractor and some heat proved to be the right combo. I did a full rebuild of the carbs using everything in the rebuild kits, sans main jets since the kit came with 110 & 115 options, but the bike needs 130s due to the pod air filters. Should have it running again by the end of the weekend. I have new brake pads ready to go, so I just have to clean up the calipers, flush the old brake fluid it for new fluid, and get the new tires mounted. Once that's done, I can take it off Non-Op, and it'll be ready for the road. :auto-biker:
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